Once, nobody died for eight days. Which I can understand wanting to be at home, but yeah, I guess shooting yourself in the head if you're going to, I don't see why you would do it at home. We talked a lot about how decomposition works. Chuck Bryant: Yeah, or they will tear it down, or more likely haul the trailer away. Chuck Bryant: Oh, yeah, that would be awful.
We're going to take all comers who want to show up and play for free us in trivia. How Clean Is Your Crime Scene 2009 - Netflix. But there was something about Neal Smithers, owner of San Francisco—based Crime Scene Cleaners, that made Emmins want to find out what he was missing. Josh Clark: Now let's get down to the one that everybody's fascinated with, that all the movies are about, and those are murder scenes, suicide scenes, accidental shootings, basically where someone was shot. I think that just the fact that there is a meth lab there - Chuck Bryant: Oh yeah, that's true. It's weird that I have so much to write about, even though I was only in total for about 18 months.
And tile floor, absolutely tile floor. I thought, 'My God, I'm as bad as Neal. So for the cleaning man's sake, you should expire of natural causes in a bathroom and be found quickly? You can't even take it to a normal dump. Also, Chuck, even of you are a very strong person, like we said, the turnover is about eight months on average. Josh Clark: Right you are, Chuck.
Because you're dealing with some really dangerous stuff! But I mean there's a lot - and here we reach the debate, right? Josh Clark: It's just company training, right? The mattress that's going to be thrown away. They were carrying out this - Amy Adams and the other girl were carrying out this nasty like bloody mattress, and one of her dropped her end and the other one fell on the blood stain. If you want a grief counselor, usually that can be factored into the price. Chuck Bryant: It's the girl from Pulp Fiction, the cab driver, right? Chuck Bryant: Right, and they have people they send out all over the country now, but I think it said that they do about 400 clean-ups in San Francisco alone each year. Josh Clark: We're going to kick off - remember what we did in New York City? It was so impersonal I couldn't relate it to anything. Chuck Bryant: That was one of the jokes of the scenes actually.
Josh Clark: This and waste disposal. As a matter of fact, as many letters as there are types of Hepatitis, I would get a vaccine for each of them. His book Mop Men: Inside the World of Crime Scene Cleaners follows Smithers who started his company after watching Pulp Fiction from a double murder to a slit-wrist suicide, and all the gruesome, partially decomposed scenes in-between. And he told her like, you know, you could make a lot more money by doing this. Josh Clark: Did they catch the guy? It's not just going to be us schlubs. Josh Clark: Send us an e-mail to the email address that I will give at the end of the show, because I got ahead of myself. The companies and people profiled on Corporation Wiki are displayed for research purposes only and do not imply an endorsement from or for the profiled companies and people.
Josh Clark: - crime-scene clean-up person. So there's quite a mixture of situations, although most of them are suicides. You've got your more hard core supplies like industrial strength - like hospital strength disinfectants. That was just regular barbed wire, he said, not razor wire. When I think of how little I knew, doing a job like that, it just makes me laugh. And those people last an average of about eight months before they get burned out in this business, right? Josh Clark: I definitely fall in the line like, yeah, this is fine.
I thought, 'My God, I'm as bad as Neal. Chuck Bryant: Yeah, that one article I sent you I think that company said they hire a lot of former firemen, and I would think probably military people. How many jobs did Neal do a day? Chuck Bryant: Yeah, I agree. That's just so much of a problem. Our crime scene cleanup services are contracted by hundreds of cities, counties, management companies, hotels and Fortune 500 companies. But, you know, we'll talk about the training in a minute, but they obviously want to do a god job, because the last thing you want is - I mean the turnover is already high enough.
They use an enzyme on the walls — it breaks the blood down and makes it easier to clean. Like I remember seeing them carrying out like a mattress in, just like, you know, Mrs. If you cancel your class. Josh Clark: Not very heavily marketed in traditional channels. You're dealing with blood, which often feature appropriately enough, blood borne pathogens. It leaves a toxic residue, not just on walls, but in the air as well, so another, I guess, prior job experience that is good to bring to the table if you're a crime-scene clean-up person is a construction background. And it's a niche part of the cleaning industry.
So for the cleaning man's sake, you should expire of natural causes in a bathroom and be found quickly? They can say, well, I know this guy is good. Now he does a lot of like train derailments and stuff like that. Chuck Bryant: I don't know anything about that. Josh Clark: Apparently it's ammonia, it's an ammonia-based smell created by decomp. You have to take it to special dumps that are out of public reach. Chuck Bryant: That's more confusing than college football rankings and quantum physics. If there are valuables that can be cleaned, they'll start cleaning them and moving them out of the way.
And that's the stuff that's really staggering — the people who stand at the front of the house, arguing about who gets what and hustling the cleaners about cleaning the mess up as quick as possible. I did the first 700 jobs by myself. Anything that can't be put in some sort of decontaminating chemical has to be taken out, thrown away. You can't just throw it in a bag into the back of your van. In Sunshine Cleaning there was never anyone at the scene, but it was realistic in some ways, because one of the sub-plots involved one of the girls found a wallet and an identification from the deceased and ended up looking up her daughter and befriending her daughter but not telling the daughter that she had cleaned up here mother's suicide or homicide scene. Chuck Bryant: This is what people are snorting.